AG200 Japanese site.

The Japanese made the AG200 so you would expect them to have a little bit of a fan base right? Well they do. Go and check it out here. You will have to use Google translate to glean anything from the writing, but if you persist you will find a few nuggets, like the 6 speed gearbox on the early Japanese version, and the brochure is cool, wonder if they did an English version…

Cheers

AGman

19 thoughts on “AG200 Japanese site.

  1. Hello AGman,
    Amazing site – only in Japan!
    Imagine turning up at a fan meet.
    It seems to show a 230 ag bike. We have never seen one here.
    It would be good to have a link between your site and theirs.

    We’ve had some great rain up here – 44 mm is the best January rain for many years. Puts a smile on a lot of faces.

    Cheers, Mike

    1. Hi Mike
      In times past you could get what they called an TTR230AG, all it was a TTR230 with a rear rack and a better headlight which you can still order through the Y-Shop and either upgrade your current TTR or get your dealer to do it when you buy a new one. As far as I can tell, Yamaha don’t offer the TTR230AG any more, if you want one you have to spec it up yourself. I don’t think they sold too well, maybe it was just Yamaha’s reaction to the new range of two wheeled AG bikes from their competitors. The AG200 is still the pick in my opinion if you want a “real” AG bike and not a trail bike with a rack on it.

      Good news with the rain…might have to come for a visit at some stage…seeing I’m a donating supporter! 🙂
      Cheers
      AGman

      1. Love to have you up here AGman!

        Thank you for your support.

        Lots of good riding to be had. Send us an email and we will send you some pics.

        Cheers, Mike

  2. Hey agman. Fellow ag200 owner here. Currently setting it up to do some big round trips around aus( mainly because i got the bike for free) Got a road legal one with bugger all k’s real well looked after (serviced every 1000) and i assume its just putted around a dry farm its whole 16000 ks since 84. It is now somewhat ‘de-agged’. Removed some of the racks and gaurds and baffle and stuff, got some 80/20 road dirt tires on the way and trying out some different sprocket setups for a comfortable cruising speed that is safe on the road. Anyway, what do u know about the yamaha bronco, it looks very similar to the ag200. Sort of how mine looks at the moment actually ( or what i wish it did!) Cant find much about it anywhere. Cheers. Btw was glad to find your blog

    1. Hi Zac
      Thanks for the comments, much appreciated. Here is a bit of info on the Bronco if anyone else is interested. It owes more to the XT225/250 Serow than the AG200, it has a similar engine with the extra CC, extra gear and I’d bet the higher primary ratio. This engine combo would probably be better in the AG for touring but I would prefer the AG200 chassis – more scope to hang stuff off it! Keep us posted on your trip…very interested to hear how it goes.
      Cheers
      AGman

  3. Thanks heaps. Awesome work youve done here. I had had fun trying to translate all the goodies off that japenese sight to. When u say primary ratio, is that what leaves the ag still so low geared? Ive been comparing sprocket setups with those of tw200 but i may be doing so with no real accuracy. I have tried some different ones. 17/45 was too tall. 14/45 still just to revvy, im hoping 15/45 is just right, aiming for 85-90 kmh all day which it will almost do on either setup, except just missing out slightly. Fingers crossed for 15/45. Cheers mate. have u thought about a facebook fan club for the ag? We could all post pics, info and so on and recrive notifications and be a bit more connected. Point some more owners toward your blog from there. (not that many of the farmers that ride em arr gunna be facebookin!), thanks again, Zac.

    1. Hi Zac
      Yes, that’s correct, the AG200 has a smaller gear on the end of the crank that drives the larger gear on the clutch. This reduces the gearing for the whole gearbox and what makes for the low overall ratios for the AG. The primary ratio for the AG is 74/20 while the TW, TTR and XT variants had 73/22 primary while the TTR and XT had 6 speed boxes as well. Checkout the list I posted up on the TW forum.
      Be careful how high you push the gearing…the clutch is weak and if it’s not 100% (springs and plates) it will slip and may leave you stranded. I would suggest replace BOTH the plates and springs if you’re going for an extended ride with higher gearing, especially if you’re carrying extra weight.
      Good idea on Facebook, have been considering a forum but Facebook might be good for the interim.
      Cheers
      AGman

      1. I see. Any chance of swapping tw200 gear in? Or am i just trying to make an ag bike do what an ag bike shouldnt? Dont get me wrong i love it, Its a great bike as is, and so perfect for cruising the dirt trails locally, it would just be a huge bonus to also sit a bit closer to highway speed. look forward to a facebook page. ill be posting some pics up directly! Ive set up a few pages for my old business so if you need any help let me know. Really looking forward to seeing some other owners rides to. All the best, Zac

        1. Zac
          I can confirm that the XT, TTR and all the bigger cc bikes have an extra plate in the clutch, along with a modified clutch housing to suit – Yamaha knew it was weak and fixed it on the engines that had a bit more poke. I think the outer clutch cover is larger than the AG to accommodate the larger clutch…but I cant confirm this 100% without having the bikes side by side.
          I don’t see much point putting the higher ratio primary in the AG when it doesn’t really have the horsepower to pull it anyway. I have found going to a 14 front is OK and it pulls it OK so maybe going a few teeth smaller on the rear might be a worthwhile experiment.
          My perfect setup would be a TTR or XT225/250 engine in the AG, but I suspect the biggest issue here would be getting a decent carb crammed into the AG frame. The AG airbox is pretty restrictive as well. This is something I’d like to look into in the future because an XT225/250 pulls 100km out on the road no worries. Those few extra CC’s and a bigger carb/less restrictive airbox make a big difference.
          Cheers
          AGman

          1. Well there you have it. Thanks for clearing that all up. Some good points to think about. Cheers agman, Zac.

    2. Hi Zac
      We (myself, better half and two sons) are planning a trip from the Kunene to Cape and are doing some distance on the AG’s, but do need a bit more top end speed in areas where we need to link from gravel to gravel via a tarred road. Please let me know the outcome of your experiment with the various combinations.
      Regards
      Martin

    3. I have been doing some research on topic of gearing for AG200. The consensus seems to be that 15/45 is good, but 15/47 perhaps may be better, without a lot of downshifting.

      1. Hi John
        Thanks for the info. I agree there will be a fine line with the gearing where it will hold a gear OK or it wont. I’d say you are on the money for an unladen bike but it may struggle with some gear on board. Need more testing on this…
        Cheers
        AGman

  4. Hi AGman,
    Congratulations on your great site, you are providing some superb information here !

    I am planning a trip by AG200 later this year, going from Cape Town to Nairobi – up through the middle of the continent via the Congo. I have previously used 150 cc Chinese versions of the AG in Africa for long trips (Nairobi to UK, going west.) and this will be my first AG200 trip. Could you please suggest what a travelling tool kit for the AG200 should contain ? I would really appreciate your thoughts on that.

    I also think a forum for the AG200 would be a great idea. I stay away from the likes of Facebook and Twitter, but maybe a thread on ADVrider would be a way to go ?

    Thanks again for all your info.

    Cheers, Richard.

    1. Hi Richard
      Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.
      Sounds like you’re planing a great trip, the AG200 will be up for it no worries! I look forward to a ride report up on ADV rider, I will get a thread going on there so keep an eye out. Don’t know why I didn’t think of it earlier…have been a member for a while but just didn’t think the interest would be there.
      As for a tool kit; I pretty much exchange all the tools in the Yamaha kit for quality ones except the spark plug socket…it works OK and is light. I also add a shifter to release the large rear hub nut at the rear (behind the axle nut) to aid in chain adjustment. I also like to carry a small 8mm T handle for a lot of the fasteners on the bike. Tire levers, tubes and other general bike stuff are also carried. It might be a good topic for my blog – keep an eye out!
      Cheers
      AGman

  5. Hi AGman,
    Many thanks for the reply and recommendations….much appreciated.

    I will be looking forward to reading your further additions to the blog. And also any news of other sites/forums where you might be planning to share your knowledge.

    I’ll let you know how the trip goes. Thanks again.

    Cheers, Richard.

  6. Hi Agman,
    I agree with all regarding an open forum of some sort. It will be great to be able to exchange info with guys like Richard and Zac who are also planning longer distance adventure riding. My plans for the Kunene to Cape trip is still on the table. Have recently done some great riding with my wife and sons in mountainous areas. The AG’s take the gravel roads easy, they are king of the single track mountain trails (thanks for that low down first), but we battle on tar if we have to link to other gravel roads – the 4-wheel cages tend to pile up behind us. I would appreciate some more feedback regarding the best combination of sprockets.

    1. Hi Martin
      Gearing is a difficult one for the AG because it has trouble pulling much more than one tooth on the front. That’s just my opinion, you could experiment with a few less teeth on the rear but I think if you are going to load it up a bit and gear it up, you will run into issues with the clutch. What it needs is the XT or TTr engine in it; a bit more horsepower to pull the higher gearing, a better spread of ratios with an extra gear and a stronger clutch.
      Try one tooth up on the front and see how it goes. I just stick to back roads, which my rego confines me too anyway, and enjoy the scenery!
      Cheers
      AGman

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